Will Overture remain KING?

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Will Overture remain KING?

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I’m wondering if Overture is going to take second place to Encore. Which of the two programs is going to be considered the ‘premium’ and ‘full featured’ one? Surely, they can’t be equal in strength and features can they?

Just like Score Writer is a subset of Overture, will Encore be the little brother or big brother of Overture? They both come from the same company so there must be some sort of hierarchal structure that will become apparent in the feature set and price point.

What’s the pricing plan for upgrades, cross-grades? I’m wondering if any of these things have been figured out yet.
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My guess is the next version of Encore will actually be the Overture code base with excellent features to import existing Encore files. Makes no sense to try and maintain 2 code bases with such a small team. Maybe then we can get finally the bug fixes that are on Don's shelf and we have been waiting for the past couple of years! We will just have to wait and see though!
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I'm sure Don will fill us in eventually...so I wouldn't presume to know the answers either... but taking some guesses with you...
crossbow wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:42 amMakes no sense to try and maintain 2 code bases

I agree and to also maintain two programs that do the same things...
Merv wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:25 pm Which of the two programs is going to be considered the ‘premium’ and ‘full featured’ one?
My guess is Overture. I think they serve (will serve) different purposes/functions and that there are some clues to this on the Passportmusic site.
Merv wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:25 pm will Encore be the little brother or big brother of Overture?
I just don't see Overture being a little brother to "anyone" of Don's products. I'm not really familiar with Encore but when you think about it... Overture is quite powerful, having pretty much everything rolled into one. I might think otherwise if the development wasn't continuing on Overture. Again, I think there are some clues to this on the ABOUT US on Passport's site.
Merv wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:25 pm What’s the pricing plan for upgrades, cross-grades?
No clue, but knowing Don, it will likely be more than fair, incentivized, and well thought out.

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It actually surprises me to hear mention of Encore in any context. Hasn't development of the program been halted for over a decade? Overture, on the other hand, was at least updated a year or two ago. But, you're right, we'll see what the developer has in mind, hopefully not before too long.
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Well, for the market would be great to have more DAW-like notation apps.
Surely some competition will lead to many improvements of the programs in this class.
Of course the virtual instrument creators will have in mind this relatively small, in range, group of software when they create their instruments.
So, I hope that Encore and Overture will become very stable and continue to compete with other competitors in the market.
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Odd that you can find out more about what is going on through a Google search than on the OV this forum.
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I venture to predict that the new Encore will be more focused on editing simple scores decently, using a single on-screen palette. Properly import and export Midi and XML 3.0. Possibly it will fix the untied triplets, cross notation for piano and little else. (Obviously it will be able to open all kinds of Encore scores from older versions and possibly handle Overture files).
The price, I suppose, will be very tight to win back all the previous Encore clientele.
I say the price has to be very, very, tight. Because offering the same as other similar programs, if it does not compete with something different or by price, it has nothing to do in the score editor market.
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dermod wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:22 am Odd that you can find out more about what is going on through a Google search than on the OV this forum.
Doesn't really strike me as a negative or anything too odd here. It just looks like a separate exciting endeavor that has some history to it and someone happened to pick up on this and mention it over here.

I'm sure they're just in the process of working to put things together over there. It says:
Don plans to keep Passport Music software running as a separate entity while reviving both Encore and Master Tracks Pro along with working on his other projects at Sonic Scores.
Plus we do know that Overture 6 is on the horizon. Anything otherwise, I'm sure we'd be informed.

That's my .02 take on it.

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As far as I could see, Overture and Encore are at equivalent levels (functionality, price, etc), and still look like cousins though they have evolved differently, and are technically not compatible.

Most probably, Overture might be a little ahead, since Encore hasn't been improved for years - but has a large user base, who need not only to keep their scores, but also their ability and familiarity with it.

Encore has (had) its little brother called "MusicTime DeLuxe" - in a similar position as ScoreWrite to Overture), but Don hasn't indicated that he would maintain tis product.
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