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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:18 pm 
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Don,
Here are few ideas for improvement of the Context Menu when we perform Right mouse click over Staff.

1. Measure > Insert Before Current Measure / Insert Before Current Measure can be simply replaced by the Insert Measure
which already exists in the top menu bar - Measures. Then we can directly specify how many measures we would like to insert and where.
This will make the workflow better and will save some space in the Context

2. Adding of Increase Measures on System and Decrease Measures on System into the Context Menu. These two option are
also needed to be there while we are on the score, without moving up to the Menu Bar.

3. Adding of Enable and Disable Playback, Beam, Stem and Notate As, which are now available only in Edit and Notes at top Menu Bar, into the Context Menu related to the inserted and selected notes. This will improve the workflow much more.

4. I have already mentioned about "Paste Special" in this post: viewtopic.php?f=54&t=20246#p62243

I have even better idea: Would be really great if we are able to customize the Context Menus, what to include or exclude on our personal preferences. But probably
this will need hard work...

All the mentioned features need to be there, prepared to be used on fly.

Thank you in advance! :-)

Greetings :-)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:01 am 
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Item #1 and #3 are great ideas. A customizable context menu is also a great idea.

Item #3 would be a really nice addition to a right click context menu – at least for me. When I want to disable playback on the bass or treble stave of a grand staff (which I do often when scoring for piano) I have assigned key bindings to CTRL-SHIFT D (disable highlighted notes) and CTRL-SHIFT E (enable highlighted notes) but this requires a move from the mouse to the keyboard. The alternative is to go to the edit menu and mouse down to the disable/enable command over and over again which becomes annoying after awhile. The best option as suggested by Thurisaz would be right click (bring up the menu) then left click (disable playback). Easy peasy!

BTW, can disabled playback notes be greyed out in any of the latest versions of Overture? (There’s lots of colours in the palette)


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:36 am 
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Excellent ideas Thurisaz ... all FIVE.

Up with contexutal menus! It's one of the best things for convenience and discoverability.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:55 pm 
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Hi, Merv,

Merv wrote:
The best option as suggested by Thurisaz would be right click (bring up the menu) then left click (disable playback). Easy peasy!

Are you speaking of a "context menu" here? Then perhaps you have "right" and "left" interchanged.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:30 pm 
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Right clicking on virtually any item in Overture will bring up a ‘context’ or ‘contextual’ menu (both terms being the same thing). If I right click on a notehead a context menu will appear that gives me eight choices. For example, I can make symbols visible or invisible because those are a couple of choices that are currently presented in the context menu that pops up. I would like enable/disable playback to be a couple of additional choices in that context menu, but those choices don’t appear in the current context menu, and they are important to my workflow.

What Thurisaz is suggesting is the idea of customizable context menus that could be invoked and tweaked to suit our personal work habits. ‘Right click’ then ‘left click’ is simple and does not require a trip to the menu bar. My current shortcut keys also require a switch from the mouse to the keyboard. When going through a chart to check for musicality I don’t need the keyboard (either the computer keyboard, the on screen keyboard or my synth keyboard). I just need my mouse and a few left and right clicks to enable/disable playback on selected notes. But, as Thurisaz says, perhaps we’re looking at a coding nightmare here.

Maybe I’m just getting lazy, picky, cantankerous, impatient, or even stoopid as I get older. Anyway, I spend a lot of time each day scoring and more and more I find that it’s the little things that become annoying. It’s because they’re the ‘little things’ that you don’t hear me complain on the forum about them. I certainly do appreciate it when others bring these things up though.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:16 pm 
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Merv wrote:
I spend a lot of time each day scoring and more and more I find that it’s the little things that become annoying.

I certainly do appreciate it when others bring these things up though.

Yes, exactly. The devil's in the details! And please express some of the annoying issues when you can. You're probably not alone in your frustration. Either there's a better built-in approach, there's a reasonable workaround (which forum members might point you to) and/or a feature request is in order.

Many of us don't think all small issues are unimportant. Thus some of our posts and members are cast as petty and complaint oriented, but I also see "Fixed in the next release" in a nearly countless number of our threads.

Thanks for you post Merv. Someday perhaps someone will do a Walter Demming style time management study on Overture usage to help improve user productivity. If users devote a serious amount of time to repetitive tasks, if they encounter frequent small tasks that eat of precious seconds of time, or they takes steps that require redoing or repairing sections of their scores, the overall situation could be improved by modifying and streamlining the intended workflow.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:52 pm 
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Still, when compared with F or S or E, Overture is a damn sight better for both ease of scoring and playback flexibility! Over the years our ‘petty and complaint oriented’ posts have only made Overture a better product IMO.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:42 pm 
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Merv wrote:
Still, when compared with F or S or E, Overture is a damn sight better for both ease of scoring and playback flexibility!

Agreed, Merv. And Overture is far better (in terms of UX and speed of entry) than the present incarnation of D or N too.

Merv wrote:
Over the years our ‘petty and complaint oriented’ posts have only made Overture a better product IMO.

Yes. It takes patience and tenacity on all sides. I've only devoted time in discussions here because Overture is currently the best tool for me, and because I think it's on the brink of being truly great product.

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