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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:15 pm 
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Don,
Would be nice if you spend some time watching this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvlTxFnMU1c Many Engraving related important things are listed.
Especially Tips No. 4 and No. 5
I didn't find a way to do a Masking in Overture. This is very important function that has to be implemented.

In the video we can notice the high importance of precise and clear measurement tools.

Thank you in advance! :)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:27 am 
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Good point, Thurisaz. I've wanted a feature in Overture where one object could "mask" another.

We currently have an opaque background properety in Text objects and for graphic objects like rectangles. But these float on the topmost "layer." Thus text and graphic objects eclipse everything beneath—including other text and graphic objects, seemingly with objects most recently created order highest in the drawing stack.

If Overture organizes each "class" of object into a unique layer (in a stack, as shown below, with the default of All staves topmost):

    • all staves
    • all bar lines
    • all clefs and signatures
    • all notes
    • all slurs and ties
    • all articulations

... and then, if Text and Graphic objects are afforded a Layer Position property, one could position an opaque object above or below any of notational layers. The option to reorder the layers would allow greater flexibility.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:09 am 
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Scorster hello,
Well, this Opaque needs to be available for every object.
Also would be nice if we can control the dimension of it around the object with two main options and 2 parameters per option:

1. Vertical /Height/
Parameter 1: Dimension above the object (text, note, hairpins, dynamics, slur, tie, articulations ...)
Parameter 2: Dimension below the object (text, note, hairpins, dynamics, slur, tie, articulations ...)

2. Horizontal /Length/
Parameter 1: Dimension on the left side of the object (text, note, hairpins, dynamics, slur, tie, articulations ...)
Parameter 2: Dimension on the right side of the object (text, note, hairpins, dynamics, slur, tie, articulations ...)

These parameters should work per selected object, or group of selected objects e.g. group of notes, group of slurs, group of hairpins, group of text objects etc...

The dimension measurement must be available in all systems - Metric(millimeters), US and British Imperial

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:12 pm 
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Thurisaz wrote:
Well, this Opaque needs to be available for every object.
Also would be nice if we can control the dimension of it around the object

Yes, good idea, but opacity option will only work if we can control the layering of objects.

There may be a simple elegant solution, which of course may not be complete. Have to admit, this is surely a complicated task, depending on how Overture currently stacks drawn objects.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:27 am 
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Hi guys,
Very good suggestions about the masking/opacity! I've found that many of these, which are possible in Sibelius, aren't available in Overture.
The masking is important in cases to save space on the score.
I believe this will be improved!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:46 am 
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Many of the symbols already have opaque settings.
Graphics, text, expressions, dynamics, meters, and key signatures.

I just fixed the key signature opaque problem add added opaque to hairpin dialog.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:43 am 
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For hairpins across barlines, you'll have to do it like Sibelius where the place a white out graphic in between the stems.
If you notice, the video did not show how to do this.
It would be too complicated to have it done automatically.
I might be able to come up with another solution.

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