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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:30 pm 
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In a score set to 4/4: Offbeat quarter notes (or dotted quarter notes) fail to swing.

Been running into this a lot lately ...

Such "straight note" interpretations may erroneously occur on any syncopated note with a face value duration greater than an eighth (or perhaps offbeat eighths tied to a longer note.)

I did not test for any of those possibilities. I've only provided a couple of examples that may represent something more widespread.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:31 am 
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It plays correctly here.
Use the tempo slider to slow it down and you'll here the swing playback in both measures.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:26 am 
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Hmmm... I'm on the scorster side for this. The syncopated quarter note is heard before the 8th note on voice 2. If I remember correctly it's been like that for long time. It didn't bugged me because I always prefer to do a manual quantize.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:27 am 
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Don wrote:
Use the tempo slider to slow it down and you'll here the swing playback in both measures.

Glad to know were like-minded on the desired In Swing behavior.

The straight/swing playback anomaly is very obvious here, as Robert reported.

I can make you a recording or video.

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OK I got it and it is in the next release (5.6.2.4).
I also lengthened the first eighth note to give it a better swing feel.

Speaking of swing eighths, I am thinking about using the Tempo dialog to control this. (It already has the option to display swing eighths.
Or use an Expression that sets it.
And maybe add the actual swing amount %.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:37 pm 
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Don wrote:
OK I got it and it is in the next release (5.6.2.4).
I also lengthened the first eighth note to give it a better swing feel.

Thank you. Then Overture will be able to play much more realistically! And the scorist can attenuate the level of swing to match the feel of the piece.

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Speaking of swing eighths, I am thinking about using the Tempo dialog to control this. (It already has the option to display swing eighths.

I like your next idea ...

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Or use an Expression that sets it. And maybe add the actual swing amount %.

Yes! A Swing text expression makes perfect sense ... with the Swing % property in the Edit Expression dialog. Then the composer/scorist could alternate between straight and swing throughout the piece, and/or vary between light and heavy swing. However I'll suggest the addition of a Straight expression too, rather than using the Swing expression to set the Swing % = 50%.

As previously mentioned an integer % value would not provide enough granularity. I think values of tenths would suffice, e.g.: 64.3%,   62.1%

Thanks for the fix and the new possibilities!

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